tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post6786536027246471071..comments2024-03-28T09:14:23.359-04:00Comments on Half an Hour: Social Media and MeStephen Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-82218058701648919162009-01-13T01:30:00.000-05:002009-01-13T01:30:00.000-05:00Shoutin' out to Labatt from Chronos!Been a looooon...Shoutin' out to Labatt from Chronos!<BR/><BR/>Been a looooong time since Muddog, eh?<BR/><BR/>Luminesce and I will be celebrating our 15 year anniversary later this year!<BR/><BR/>Drop me a line anytime... borealin@yahoo.comApotropaioshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03707689810730208434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-26039396555912447312008-06-06T19:59:00.000-04:002008-06-06T19:59:00.000-04:00"You can't rewrite history and make it as though m..."You can't rewrite history and make it as though mobile phones where some kind of computing environment. They never were, not until very recently." <BR/><BR/>So a processor running software is not a computing environment? <BR/><BR/>Also the world first SMS text message in 1992 was actually sent from a computer to a mobile phone and only a year later from one mobile to another. <BR/><BR/>Are you claiming that neither the "thingy" in a computer sending the world first SMS or the "thingy" in the mobile phone receiving it were software? So what they were? Telephones? Hmm..<BR/><BR/>I think it is actually you who is now rewriting the history. <BR/><BR/>I think it is not right to claim that Windows running ICQ was the world first computer environment with instant messaging, even if it was the first computer environment where *you* started to use IM.Teemu Leinonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02233005062709021734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-18413922820661313272008-05-29T18:16:00.000-04:002008-05-29T18:16:00.000-04:00> SMS client running on a GSM phone is a _piece of...> SMS client running on a GSM phone is a _piece of software_ for _instant messaging_.<BR/><BR/>It was 'software' only technically, in the sense that it was a series of instructions processed by a machine. But it was created on a closed platform, and fits the class of technologies known as 'telephony' and not 'software'. You can't rewrite history and make it as though mobile phones where some kind of computing environment. They never were, not until very recently.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-88576687811730307702008-05-29T17:43:00.000-04:002008-05-29T17:43:00.000-04:00"SMS is messaging, but was not integrated with the..."SMS is messaging, but was not integrated with the internet for many years, and so isn't 'software' in the usual sense of the term."<BR/><BR/>Including to the definition of "software" (or even to the definition of "messaging software") a requirement that it is "integrated with internet" is pretty unique.<BR/><BR/>SMS client running on a GSM phone is a _piece of software_ for _instant messaging_. <BR/><BR/>For me ICQ was/is (?) just one instant messaging software in the history of IM, and definitely not very "original".<BR/><BR/>- TeemuTeemu Leinonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02233005062709021734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-49115372702831849682008-05-29T17:16:00.000-04:002008-05-29T17:16:00.000-04:00> Still, Apple very much calls iChat instant messa...> Still, Apple very much calls iChat instant messaging.<BR/><BR/>Yes, but Apple is wrong. Thery c an call it that as part of marketing hype, but it's *messaging* only if you can leave a message.<BR/><BR/>> What about SMS? Instant messaging since 1993.<BR/><BR/>SMS is messaging, but was not integrated with the internet for many years, and so isn't 'software' in the usual sense of the term.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-26604535783682108532008-05-29T16:06:00.000-04:002008-05-29T16:06:00.000-04:00I actually like the segregation you make, though n...I actually like the segregation you make, though not sure if it is that simple. :-) <BR/><BR/>IRC can be (and is) used for asynchronous "messaging", even that the original idea (and culture build around it) was synchronous communication.<BR/><BR/>TALK - as far as I remember - was clearly synchronous tool, only. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, e.g. with Apple IChat I may not send asynchronous messages for my offline contacts. Still, Apple very much calls iChat instant messaging.<BR/><BR/>What about SMS? Instant messaging since 1993.<BR/><BR/>So, at least I do not give for ICQ the "glory" of being the "original instant messaging software". <BR/><BR/> - TeemuTeemu Leinonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02233005062709021734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-80420739007733522002008-05-29T13:56:00.000-04:002008-05-29T13:56:00.000-04:00> What about IRC / IRC clients? Or Talk? - TeemuTh...> What about IRC / IRC clients? Or Talk? - Teemu<BR/><BR/>These are types of chat software, not messaging software.<BR/><BR/>Messaging is asynchronous. The message sits there until you log on. Chat - like IRC, etc. - is synchronous. If you weren't logged on at the time, you missed it.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-26024293708156237102008-05-29T13:31:00.000-04:002008-05-29T13:31:00.000-04:00"ICQ is the original instant messaging software" W..."ICQ is the original instant messaging software" <BR/><BR/>What about IRC / IRC clients? Or Talk? - TeemuTeemu Leinonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02233005062709021734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-68322703718307409572008-05-22T22:28:00.000-04:002008-05-22T22:28:00.000-04:00Wow that gave some great insights into the evoluti...Wow that gave some great insights into the evolution of social media! Also made me realize how i overlooked quite a few sites/tools, i think i jsut discounted them as they were just part of growing up with the web..thanks for that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-70112969216329888392008-05-21T12:12:00.000-04:002008-05-21T12:12:00.000-04:00A rich personal history online...thanks for sharin...A rich personal history online...thanks for sharing. Stephen's Web (and Rob Paterson's blog) were the first blogs I followed, starting back in 1999. I wonder how many people could trace their initial involvement in social media right back to Stephen's Web and OLDaily?Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01293317607000363396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-1504082298014713082008-05-21T11:23:00.000-04:002008-05-21T11:23:00.000-04:00Oh, you absolute star! Thanks so much for such a w...Oh, you absolute star! Thanks so much for such a wonderfully comprehensive and richly referenced response.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com