tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post6227935747669136738..comments2024-03-28T03:32:41.433-04:00Comments on Half an Hour: Frustrated With DrupalStephen Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-47414406986531393352006-12-20T14:42:00.000-05:002006-12-20T14:42:00.000-05:00Just curious if you have looked into Joomla? When...Just curious if you have looked into Joomla? When I was comparing systems between Drupal and Joomla, I felt that Joomla was going to be the most trouble free as well as provide a huge community of people to help support the different plug-ins & modules.<br /><br />I have tried so many different apps it is crazy. In the end my website runs entirely on Joomla. This is not to say it hasn't been trouble free. There is always going to be a learning curve, tweaking, customization, and fixing things the developers messed up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-79977090865400961272006-12-19T21:23:00.000-05:002006-12-19T21:23:00.000-05:00Everyone starts new somewhere. In general the for...Everyone starts new somewhere. In general the forums are fairly friendly and a good resource if different from phpBB engineered forums. You also benefit from /tracker and being able to track your questions and what you've read. I found your posts through Drupal Talk feeds but my help is not the communities help.<br /><br />If you are going to be writing your own modules and such, I draw your attention to http://drupal.org/node/62304<br /><br />Lots of modules to look at and it's hard for people to know which are actively maintained or used. While folks are working on tools to help people decide and evaluate better, it takes time for code to be produced and tested.<br /><br />Search works fine for me. If you use advanced search you can get even more granular. Forum only and specific forum as well.<br /><br />Failing that, use google site:drupal.org<br /><br />I tell people 3 weeks to 3 months depending on their background, experience and goals to get familiar with Drupal to really begin to get productive. <br /><br />I also leave you with this link<br />http://www.blkmtn.org/Good-reading-for-those-starting-out-with-DrupalUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06569736174506273847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-48927442421036302142006-12-18T13:23:00.000-05:002006-12-18T13:23:00.000-05:00Thank you, simplenews looks like exactly what I ne...Thank you, simplenews looks like exactly what I needed.<br /><br />I haven't used the forums because they aren't very user-friendly. And I don't like asking noob questions - I would prefer that search worked so I could simply find what I need.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06562256531773245140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-73210874007981745222006-12-18T03:39:00.000-05:002006-12-18T03:39:00.000-05:00You could just use simplenews module to send newsl...You could just use simplenews module to send newsletters. Hundreds if not thousands of people are using it. You have the option of sending in text or html. Easy setup.<br /><br />Have you asked on Drupal forums?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06569736174506273847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-39268163530061637232006-12-17T16:44:00.000-05:002006-12-17T16:44:00.000-05:00I wonder why you are not simply patching up your c...<i>I wonder why you are not simply patching up your current management system? What is wrong with your own custom system? Is it so badly broken that it will only work on a NRC server???</i><br /><br />No, it will probably run on other servers. I guess I should have more confidence in my own work. I always worry that it runs really slowly. But I don't think it does, in retrospect.<br /><br /><i>Another mistake might to look at a tool that does it all (Drupal). My experience has been that using multiple tools is often less frustrating. Well, have you looked at wordpress? Lots of people have had luck with it, especially with the latest release which is pretty good. It is not as fancy as drupal, but people have had luck setting up mailing lists on wordpress using bloglet.</i><br /><br />Well yeah, but have they set up databased with linked data types? As I indicated in my articles, I wanted to do a lot more than just create a blog.<br /><br /><i>My experience is that your threat was unwarranted. They would have replied.</i><br /><br />Wasn't so much a threat as an expression of frustration. They really haven't been very good hosts so far.<br /><br /><i>Proper and up-to-date documentation is hard to produce and expensive....</i><br /><br />Would be easy if they made it a requirement for posting modules on the drupal site.<br /><br /><i>I run into another problem: how to send an HTML message. This ought to be supported in 2007.</i><br /><br />Well this is really what burns me. I mean, what on earth? <i>Why</i> would they set up email functions without enabling HTML email?<br /><br /><i>Currently, I subscribe to your text-only mailing list and it has always been broken (I still get random tags that gmail spits out).</i><br /><br />Yeah. These are usually formatting that I enter by hand - my 'txt' doesn't strip 'em out. Small fix - but it's hard to built a CMS from scratch by yourself with no time allocated for the task.<br /><br />Still, compared with the competition, I haven't done so badly, I guess... <br /><br />Maybe I'll reconsider just running my own system. PHP really is a crap language.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-5815629319305536802006-12-17T14:17:00.000-05:002006-12-17T14:17:00.000-05:00I wonder why you are not simply patching up your c...I wonder why you are not simply patching up your current management system?<br /><br />What is wrong with your own custom system? Is it so badly broken that it will only work on a NRC server???<br /><br />Another mistake might to look at a tool that does it all (Drupal). My experience has been that using multiple tools is often less frustrating.<br /><br /><br />Well, have you looked at wordpress? Lots of people have had luck with it, especially with the latest release which is pretty good.<br /><br />It is not as fancy as drupal, but people have had luck setting up mailing lists on wordpress using bloglet.<br /><br /><br /><i>After finally threatening to move my account elsewhere they actually sent me a terse four-line message telling me where and how to set up a mailman mailing list</i><br /><br />My experience is that your threat was unwarranted. They would have replied.<br /><br /><i>Drupal really really has to fix this.</i><br /><br />Proper and up-to-date documentation is hard to produce and expensive. We know many people who are famous by the software they produced, by the ideas they produced, or by the algorithms they produced... but how many people are famous for the documentation they posted on the Internet?<br /><br />My fix is to bitch and document what I do on my blog. I claim this is the best way to produce, collaboratively, good documentation.<br /><br /><br /><br /><i> I run into another problem: how to send an HTML message.</i><br /><br />This ought to be supported in 2007.<br /><br />Currently, I subscribe to your text-only mailing list and it has always been broken (I still get random tags that gmail spits out).Daniel Lemirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01566622051558391310noreply@blogger.com