tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post8113133619903706653..comments2024-03-29T08:44:12.249-04:00Comments on Half an Hour: National Post LiesStephen Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-78470286240707522642007-05-21T14:29:00.000-04:002007-05-21T14:29:00.000-04:00Downes said:"My thinking is, when the paper says o...Downes said:<BR/><I>"My thinking is, when the paper says one thing, and another thing is true, and known to be true, it's a bit hard to represent that as anything other than lying."</I><BR/>First off, all papers print stuff that's not true, so by your own rule (above) we could conclude that all papers are lying. <BR/><BR/>The other is that you have to make a distinction between the paper and it's writers. <BR/><BR/>And then there's the content. Some of the news is (supposed to be) the facts, other articles (like columns) are opinion pieces. <BR/><BR/>Where I'm with you is that, on average, there's a lot more <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogy" REL="nofollow">"funny stuff"</A> going on at NP than say G&M or Toronto Star. And wouldn't it be interesting to have a team of people (researchers) actually compare those three papers (papers all from the same date) on the amount of factual errors? <BR/><BR/>Brian said: <I>"In Vancouver, you can get the NP delivered to your door for $5 a month. Have no idea how that makes the sort of sound business sense they like to tout in their editorial pages."</I><BR/><BR/>The bulk of the NP's revenue is made from their advertisers (including classifieds), not their subscribers.<BR/><BR/>So see it this way: <BR/>Where "good" papers have advertising to make the paper an affordable product, "bad" papers add news to their advertising to make it more attractive. And with the latter one the quality of the news isn't really important, is it?<BR/><BR/>Make it sell!Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15012567844101960274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-87727766633874745932007-05-21T13:43:00.000-04:002007-05-21T13:43:00.000-04:00When a new national newspaper was started in Canad...When a new national newspaper was started in Canada, I was enthusiastic. However, after reading Stewart Bell's constant diatribe against the Canadian Tamil and community (to which I belong), I was disgusted by the sheer lack of journalistic ethics of this reporter and the paper and stopped reading it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-45269478028535158102007-05-21T11:31:00.000-04:002007-05-21T11:31:00.000-04:00> I think lying would be a bit farMy thinking is, ...> I think lying would be a bit far<BR/><BR/>My thinking is, when the paper says one thing, and another thing is true, and known to be true, it's a bit hard to represent that as anything other than lying.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-89520190264441961732007-05-21T03:42:00.000-04:002007-05-21T03:42:00.000-04:00In Vancouver, you can get the NP delivered to your...In Vancouver, you can get the NP delivered to your door for $5 a month. Have no idea how that makes the sort of sound business sense they like to tout in their editorial pages. It's as if they're willing to absorb a loss for people to read this stuff...Mr. GluSnifferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812746319831603014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-70029279863204364692007-05-20T22:59:00.000-04:002007-05-20T22:59:00.000-04:00I think lying would be a bit far, but there's defi...I think lying would be a bit far, but there's definitely a lot of <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogy" REL="nofollow">demagogy</A> going on in this paper.<BR/><BR/>You're right though; it's a lot worse than lying.Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15012567844101960274noreply@blogger.com