tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post7979137377290834411..comments2024-03-29T03:42:44.933-04:00Comments on Half an Hour: The Issues In Front of UsStephen Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-37363809132128524582007-02-27T00:50:00.000-05:002007-02-27T00:50:00.000-05:00If we slice any statement thin enough, nothing of ...If we slice any statement thin enough, nothing of value remains.<BR/><BR/>If we look, however, at a pattern of statements, we are often given a direction to head. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps the 'point' of manifestos and lists and the such is not the individual line. A bumper sticker serves few in terms of effective change; at the same time, slicing and dicing a bumper sticker seems to be of little additional value either.<BR/><BR/>Doug's post is pattern of ideas. Stephen makes outstanding points, but I fear that if we merely act as lawyers socratically dissecting each phrase until there is nothing left on the bone, we miss the larger point.<BR/><BR/>As for manifestos, I offer only that we need to not take ourselves too seriously at the end of the day. They are at best provocations for conversations, not holy grails. Again, a dynamic pattern rather than perfect law.<BR/><BR/>My own manifesto was written fully within the 'context' of Hugh McLeod's invitation. I chose a subject I'm fascinated by and played around with the form he had created. Like poetry, of sorts. Do I see it having some value in the larger discussion? Sure. But not as a black vs. white issue. Again, a provocation for engaging people, not a final answer. And definitely offered with a smile.<BR/><BR/>We tend to have such dour expressions on our face when we slice and dice each other's blog posts. Frankly, learning and turning 'learning' over and over is a joy. A smirk and a curious question and a bit of provocative humor never hurt anyone. Taking ourselves too seriously and acting like the intellectual/semantic-based discussions are life-n-death seems to overlook what it's really about, both in process and goal. <BR/><BR/>Likewise, school 2.0 as framing terminology is taken WAY too seriously by those who do not want to embrace it. It's not that serious. Just a match to spark conversation. Of the alternatives, there is the oft-used "21st Century School" (et al) which is already 'historical' given the 6+ years that are already in the rear-view mirror. School 2.0 is at worst a re-write of what we used to mean back pre-2000, but without boundaries based on years. Beyond that? Hardly worth the criticism or uber-serious back-n-forth. <BR/><BR/>Everyone using these terms in the blogosphere cares and is vested and is learning and is pushing hard on the possibilities. I want to go deeper than EVERYONE writes, but I also don't think that the end game will be built over being so serious we can't enjoy the process along the way. <BR/><BR/>Each of you makes me a much better thinker. Period. Disagree or agree, alike. But I do think we are given permission to be storytellers as much as scientists when it comes to exploring these ideas that drive us all to blog.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!<BR/>ChristianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-37401718513423070042007-02-26T06:23:00.000-05:002007-02-26T06:23:00.000-05:00Oh........and another thing. Isnt this character a...Oh........and another thing. <BR/><BR/>Isnt this character a little ahead of himself ?<BR/><BR/>http://www.doug-johnson.com/calendar.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12593735969463935403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-20703894940497636672007-02-26T06:10:00.000-05:002007-02-26T06:10:00.000-05:00Love it Stephen.I had a long giggle with this one....Love it Stephen.<BR/><BR/>I had a long giggle with this one.<BR/><BR/>You've really hit the nail on the head with this one. I recall doing much the same thing with http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/the-steep-unlearning-curve <BR/><BR/>We see too often the mantra effect become the premise for the next hot selling behaviourist journal and the ensuing student modification kits to go with it.<BR/><BR/>Groups ? I agree. I like working alone too. <BR/><BR/>Networks annoy me also.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12593735969463935403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-52168791962803149622007-02-25T20:01:00.000-05:002007-02-25T20:01:00.000-05:00Stephen, fascinating points. I want to go deeper t...Stephen, fascinating points. I want to go deeper than what Doug writes, deeper than School 2.0 manifestos. I'm just not sure I have that much depth! (smile)<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, I'm going to reflect a bit on your points before I revised the list on the wiki space created at http://mguhlin.wikispaces.com/future<BR/><BR/>I invite others to make changes, if they feel so inclined.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for an excellent continuation of a conversation,<BR/>Miguel<BR/>Around the Corner-MGuhlin.net<BR/>http://www.mguhlin.netMiguel Guhlin (@mGuhlin)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13515062893694709221noreply@blogger.com