tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post3848444727512977850..comments2024-03-28T11:36:22.391-04:00Comments on Half an Hour: What Is Left?Stephen Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-63669216070281401362007-09-21T02:45:00.000-04:002007-09-21T02:45:00.000-04:00I really enjoyed your paper and thought it was com...I really enjoyed your paper and thought it was comprehensive enough for my limited understanding. It also helped me to reconsider openness in online networking.<BR/><BR/>I think that when I am now speak about openness, in networking terms, I well exclude open source software and include open standards (interoperability), open networks (neutral access) and open services (sharing and remixing).<BR/><BR/>My purpose in doing that is to take forward the ideas that you, George Siemens and others have put forward about the open creation and construction of knowledge.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that open knowledge creation is at the core of social equity and the social good. Social equity and social good stress the importance of education in achieving the goals of creating and constructing knowledge.<BR/><BR/>However, in itself maybe knowledge creation is neither left nor right but how we advance civilisation, er openly.Murlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06728523586778688385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-83712247807520475542007-09-21T02:40:00.000-04:002007-09-21T02:40:00.000-04:00I am a historian, so certainly my view leans a par...I am a historian, so certainly my view leans a particular way, and I'm a community college teacher, so I tend to overgeneralize!<BR/><BR/>I start with definitions of radical, liberal and conservative. The issues are equality, liberty and stability. A radical values equality over liberty and stability. A liberal values liberty over equality and stability. A conservative values stability over the other two.<BR/><BR/>Draw these on a scale with the radicals on the left, the conservatives on the right, and the liberals in the middle. You can put people and issues on the line. Napoleon is fun, because his methods were conservative but his values liberal. <BR/><BR/>Both American political parties are near each other in the center. If you put European parties on the line, they are more widely divided.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's simplistic, but it still has value. Or maybe that's <I>why</I> it has value.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-68419750927943125402007-09-19T08:05:00.000-04:002007-09-19T08:05:00.000-04:00Stephen, thanks for this post - it helps someone l...Stephen, thanks for this post - it helps someone like me who hasn't examined the why of my political leanings in depth to understand my political sympathies a little better. You explain things very well - part of this explains why being a public educator is a source of pride for me and why morally, I couldn't work at a private school. But that's not the point here....Graham Wegnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17303319509348129453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-55201222749060290362007-09-19T06:28:00.000-04:002007-09-19T06:28:00.000-04:00>I think you need to evaluate marx and the philoso...>I think you need to evaluate marx and the philosophy of dialectical and historical materialism - before you pronounce on "what is left"<BR/><BR/><BR/>Why would you suppose I haven't? Sheesh. I <I>did</I> study philosophy for ten years you know.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-17593662846240588312007-09-18T21:06:00.000-04:002007-09-18T21:06:00.000-04:00hi stephen,I think you need to evaluate marx and t...hi stephen,<BR/><BR/>I think you need to evaluate marx and the philosophy of dialectical and historical materialism - before you pronounce on "what is left"<BR/><BR/>Some modern interpretations are very good IMO, eg. Marshall Berman's <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/All-That-Solid-Melts-into/dp/0140109625" REL="nofollow">"All that is solid melts into air" </A>Bill Kerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00206808014093631762noreply@blogger.com