tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post3332221988301664778..comments2024-03-28T11:36:22.391-04:00Comments on Half an Hour: Three Models of Knowledge ProductionStephen Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-7417214683933502862010-03-18T05:40:02.946-04:002010-03-18T05:40:02.946-04:00I do not make the claim that knowledge is the only...I do not make the claim that knowledge is the only thing produced by input to the system. Humans also experience emotions, have memories, and much more. <br /><br />When I say that "knowledge is contained in the state of the system" I am not using the word 'contain' in the sense of 'restraint' but rather in the sense of 'located within'.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-70161249456826823792010-03-18T02:58:15.618-04:002010-03-18T02:58:15.618-04:00"The 'knowledge' produced from the in..."The 'knowledge' produced from the input is contained in the state of the system as it grows and produces. "<br /><br />Is knowledge all that is produced?<br />And the notion of containment is incongruous - for me - it's a block.minhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04851035008680534957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-44514740078341288422010-03-17T19:28:40.921-04:002010-03-17T19:28:40.921-04:00The question is very convoluted and I can't ma...The question is very convoluted and I can't make out what you're asking.<br /><br />You seem to be confusing "purpose" with "practical application", as suggested by your phrase "practical purpose" and your suggestion that "Much of what passes for art would not meet this criteria (a sense of purpose)."<br /><br />But purpose is distinct from practical application. A purpose could be, would be, nothing more than a reason for having created something - eg., a need to say something, reflect on something, relate an experience, whatever.<br /><br />Viewed in this way, I can't imagine any art that does not have a purpose.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-5283752427681977842010-03-17T18:45:22.639-04:002010-03-17T18:45:22.639-04:00Do our representations have to have a practical pu...Do our representations have to have a practical purpose? What about the development of understandings (knowledge/wisdom?)in order to make sense of higher level art (poetry, Shakespeare) where data mining (eg. for Shakespeare-language acquisition), meaning making (eg Shakespeare-developing historical context from known events) and creating sense (Shakespeare- connections to experience)? What model are the various disciplines in academia most concerned?<br /><br />The last line- "a creative act is never a random act... always informed with a sense of purpose.." won't stop echoing. Much of what passes for art would not meet this criteria.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18148403104605487571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11679714.post-26551625756571993952010-03-17T10:58:09.895-04:002010-03-17T10:58:09.895-04:00I prefer the organic perspective because it helps ...I prefer the organic perspective because it helps bridging the "knowing - doing Gap". For me, Wisdom needs some application in the real world.Cyrille Simardhttp://www.nordsud.orgnoreply@blogger.com